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heavens_mirror) wrote2013-04-07 11:22 pm
heavens_mirror) wrote2013-04-07 11:22 pm
Question meme!!
I was going to wait until Canary hit 2k comments but then I was like FUCK THE POLICE I DO WHAT I WANT so here you go.
SO YEAH ASK ME WHATEVER!! Currently I just have Canary/Polka.
but I mean I GUESS you can ask me stuff regarding other characters too.
SO YEAH ASK ME WHATEVER!! Currently I just have Canary/Polka.
but I mean I GUESS you can ask me stuff regarding other characters too.
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and in some ways they kinda get each other in that way only world-saving JRPG characters canBUT ANYWAYAlthough she questioned a lot of the things he said, she really did take a lot of what he said to heart. The idea of 'living wholeheartedly' and of that being a choice really hit home, since in her own life she 'chose' on her own to leave home even though she knew it was dangerous and her mother didn't approve, because she wanted to help people with what time she had left.
So she's going to try and do what he said, and she also can see him closer to an equal now (as opposed to someone much better than her) since she understands now that he's felt the same fears and sorrows that she has. +1 to social link rank get.
Reverse...??
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idk it's just more Canary appreciation all the time over here.
ANY TEAM HOPES FOR YOUR NEXT CHARACTER?
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WELL I've been told Emerald would be a good fit for Shinichi and I do think it would be cool and I also like emerald green as a color BUT. I'd be cool with other teams too!! I don't know about specific teams, but ideally I'd like him to have a team where there's a strong enough team dynamic that he would be pushed into being more of a team player and befriending his team, but enough individualistic dynamic for him to go around doing his own thing. Also, a team that at least mostly has strong moral standards because he would nope so hard out of a team that doesn't care too much about murdering people. BUT YEAH IDK THAT IS MY DREAM but even if he ends up on a team that clashes with him, that could be interesting to play with.
How do you imagine Lloyd would react if Canary reached terminal Colette pings (a.k.a. she tells him that she has to cliff herself to save her world), and doesn't want him to tell anyone else?
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Uhhh canonically he'd maybe keep shut about it for a while and then go NO YOU CAN'T more publically. In Aather he'd probably try REALLY HARD to convince her not to keep quiet about it if it bothered her but if she was adamant about it... probably the same thing would happen! SORRY CANARY. YOUR LIFE IS IMPORTANT 8( WE CAN FIND ANOTHER WAY TO SAVE YOUR WORLD
He'd tell her about Colette, too.
...what would Canary think if he told her about Colette, actually?
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"I SHOWED THAT PASTEBIN TO MY CANONMATE AND SHE SCREAMED JUST AS LOUDLY?"
I can't even
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ALSO I mostly just mean does she have to toss herself off a cliff to save the world too or what. WORLD-SAVING MECHANICS, WHAT ARE THEY
But I mean ASSUMING IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, she would be surprised to know that there was someone like that in Lloyd's world too and probably ask stuff about her. and. if she was able to find another way to save the world and stuff. :'| and also if it had anything to do with the Darkness because she suspects that it's the Darkness that has to chased from her world. (w-which is actually pretty accurate)
ANYWAY!!!
idek what to ask. uhhh does Lloyd ever not fail at romance?
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D8<
Anyway Lloyd doesn't fail at romance in like... loving you or emotionally being there for you or supporting you or trying to do nice things for you just because you're yourself! ALL OF THAT HE'S GREAT AT. It's just like. Remembering birthdays, knowing how to flirt with someone or conduct a date, basically... all of the schmoopy couple stuff. There he sucks and is honestly pretty dumb. He's a huge sap and pretty reliable though so it sort of evens out :|a
I-is Canary still crushing on him...
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ANYWAY I wouldn't say she's still crushing on him exactly, though his level of importance in her life only seems to go even further up the more they interact s-sob... but she's able to translate those feelings into something non-romantic now since she knows he doesn't feel the same way, and she's also starting to remember more about Allegretto and possibly some of her feelings for him. As things are she's just happy to have Lloyd in her life.
But there's still the occasion or two where she feels sad about it. But she has too many awesome friends to stay sad about something like that X(!!
if he asked her out she'd say yesWhile we're on that subject, do you think Lloyd could ever want to be her boyfrand or can he just not see her that way/is too fail at schmoopy couple stuff?
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(He has the potential to date Presea in canon and she's as young as Canary, but it's also canon that he sees this as acceptable because Presea is an exception — she's emotionally 14 in some ways but she's experienced a lot more years than that and the fact she's experientially in her thirties shows in lot of ways, too. He tells people that it's different than how it looks because of that agefuck! Which implies he would not be okay with it if it was actually how it looked.)
If she was a couple years older all bets would be off though because she's very much the kind of person who can very quickly become very emotionally important to him and whups that's Lloyd's major qualifier for being into someone. Not the only one! But a very important one. And she's definitely one of the types he finds cute on top of that. :'D C...COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS CANARY.
Tell me about Allegretto!
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really though that would make her sad to hear since she still hasn't seen any real signs that she'll live past 14 in canon :')
Let's see, Allegretto... I have some issues with the way their romance (and really all of the romances in the game) was written, though it does have some pretty nice parts, like the scene I took that pastebin from. (You can watch the scene here if you want.) Most of what I take issue with is that you don't see a ton of development getting them to this point and by the end it's supposed to be ~*~true love~*~ or whatnot.
BUT as for Allegretto himself, he and his brother Beat are orphans from Ritardando (the port city that you can see from the cliff in that cutscene) who would steal bread to help the other orphans who lived in the sewers. He's headstrong, and while he tends to lean toward action rather than overthinking things (like Polka does), he's pretty good at understanding the complexities of conflict and the moral grayness between right and wrong. He also seems to already be crushing on Polka from early on, and he gets flustered and tsun whenever Viola makes fun of him for doing anything remotely romantic toward her (which she does basically every time it happens). He also knows early on that she's dying, since it's common knowledge in their world that having magic = you have a terminal disease, and while he doesn't treat her any differently for it, he worries about her a lot and wants to find some way to save her.
I suppose I could also point out that the reason I said it's supposed to be true love is because from the beginning of the game, you see her falling and talking aloud: "I must do this. And it's for the person who means the most to me. My life is nothing compared to his. Doing this is easy if it's for him." And there's a bunch of other small stuff hinting toward them being kinda fated to be together- remember that stone she quested for from Lloyd? Well, if you watch that cutscene, you'll see some of how that relates too...
WAS THAT ENOUGH. OR MAYBE TOO MUCH. IDK!!
Tell me about Colette :|a
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HA HA OH BOY. So Colette is Lloyd's childhood friend! They grow up together knowing Colette is the Chosen, a figure of some importance in the Church of Martel; when she's sixteen a bunch of foretold shit will happen and then she'll begin the ~journey of world regeneration~ which, upon her completing it, will save the world! This is a big deal because the world is undergoing a ton of attacks by monsters as well as incursions by the Desians and drought, famine, etc; this is because no Chosen has succeeded in Sylvarant for a long time — conditions which also make it impossible to give the Chosen a ton of support once it's time for their journey, especially as it's traditional for the Chosen to only travel with a very small group of companions. Colette's birthday is an annual holiday as everyone celebrates her journey to save them getting a little nearer! She's basically treated as a huge symbol of hope more than as a person in a lot of ways, and she values her life accordingly — especially since by the time canon starts, she's known for a long time that when her journey ends, so will her life as "Colette." The journey of regeneration is to change her into an angel and she knows that when it's over, she won't be able to go back to her human life. It scares her a lot, but that's what you have to do to save the world and let's have fun till then :')!!!
Over the course of her journey of world regeneration she first loses her ability to eat normally, then sleep, then feel! Her eyesight and hearing get so good they're kind of painful! She loses the ability to speak after that, but throughout the journey, she keeps reiterating that she wants to save the world and wants everyone else to have fun :')!! and hides it until Lloyd basically pries it out of her and then ignores his promise at the last to tell the others what's going on. Still, they continue, because how else is the world supposed to be saved?? — and then the inevitable conclusion is that Colette has to lose her life as a human and memories and heart/soul entirely to become an angel; it's revealed once she's already an empty husk that this is done because they need her body to try to revive Martel, not to save the world. The world regeneration system is set up as a way for Mithos to breed good Chosen candidates to hopefully match his sister's mana signature and lose their souls so that hers can take their bodies, and the religious leaders and the Desians that have been putting people in concentration camps for generations are actually the same group! How nice!
...with the help of a group of renegade Cruxis members, the party (especially Lloyd) rescues Colette and eventually brings her back to herself. Which she's grateful for! But she never finished the journey of world regeneration, so Sylvarant is still suffering; it wears on her a lot as the game continues that she's a failed Chosen, someone who dared to value living over the world, who wasn't brave enough or isn't worthy of this. She hides it from the party when she gets an illness to try to keep from worrying them, and basically continually wrestles with a sense of self-worth and who she can be if she's not the Chosen who'll save the world. She hangs on to Lloyd telling her he wants her to live for herself, and she's really not over any of it by the time the game ends. In ToS2 you see her as more settled, hoping to continue serving the world in a new way and trying to help and change it into a form that won't encourage the kind of system that broke her, but her lack of self-worth in the face of the world runs very deep. It's notable that she's very much a deconstruction of the smiling martyr girl trope — the kinds of attitudes towards your own self-worth that it fosters and how damaging and isolating it can be.
this music video is a good summary of Colette as a character, for me.
Tell me some of your character pings!
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I THINK I HAVE A LOT OF THOSE, let's seeeee. what the hell let's do it in CONVENIENT LIST FORMAT
- Antiheroes
- Dark/traumatic pasts
- Internal conflict
- Literal internal conflict (multiple personalities etc)
- Fate issues
- Humanity idealization/envy (ex. robots who wish they were human)
- Cool powers (especially if they exist for some significant reason)
- Selfless/Self-sacrificing tendencies
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dumb boysShounen spirit- Big damn heroes
- Jaded, antisocial types
- Characters who serve as the darker foil to the more positive protag
- Loyalty that outweighs morality
- ...i'm sure there's more but i'm tired
Reverse??