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Polka ([personal profile] heavens_mirror) wrote2013-04-07 11:22 pm
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Question meme!!

I was going to wait until Canary hit 2k comments but then I was like FUCK THE POLICE I DO WHAT I WANT so here you go.

SO YEAH ASK ME WHATEVER!! Currently I just have Canary/Polka.


but I mean I GUESS you can ask me stuff regarding other characters too.
brotagonist: Lloyd: derp/smile/unsure/eheh (my head is on fire)

[personal profile] brotagonist 2013-04-09 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I linked you the wrong one derp. I'll just c/p this bit of dialogue from that scene so you can see then:

Lloyd: I’m sorry. …I didn’t realize what was going on at all. I’m sorry.

Colette: Please don’t tell the others.

Lloyd: Why?!

Colette: Well, I mean, we’re all on this trip together and I want it to be fun. So, I don’t want you to worry about it either, okay?


D8<

Anyway Lloyd doesn't fail at romance in like... loving you or emotionally being there for you or supporting you or trying to do nice things for you just because you're yourself! ALL OF THAT HE'S GREAT AT. It's just like. Remembering birthdays, knowing how to flirt with someone or conduct a date, basically... all of the schmoopy couple stuff. There he sucks and is honestly pretty dumb. He's a huge sap and pretty reliable though so it sort of evens out :|a

I-is Canary still crushing on him...
brotagonist: Lloyd: slump/party (why is this my life?)

[personal profile] brotagonist 2013-04-09 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh he definitely could. The problem with it right now is like... she's 14 and he's 19 and he hasn't been parsing her way and isn't likely to start because he's not a cradle robber! Especially as she "reads" like... a mature 14 rather than an older teenager or someone with more than that going on. So there's just a lot of age gap there in the way.

(He has the potential to date Presea in canon and she's as young as Canary, but it's also canon that he sees this as acceptable because Presea is an exception — she's emotionally 14 in some ways but she's experienced a lot more years than that and the fact she's experientially in her thirties shows in lot of ways, too. He tells people that it's different than how it looks because of that agefuck! Which implies he would not be okay with it if it was actually how it looked.)

If she was a couple years older all bets would be off though because she's very much the kind of person who can very quickly become very emotionally important to him and whups that's Lloyd's major qualifier for being into someone. Not the only one! But a very important one. And she's definitely one of the types he finds cute on top of that. :'D C...COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS CANARY.

Tell me about Allegretto!
brotagonist: Lloyd: symbolic hand/fond/earnest/party (gathered up the broken stars.)

[personal profile] brotagonist 2013-04-09 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Don't jump off a cliff so you can grow up and date me :|a SEEMS LEGIT

HA HA OH BOY. So Colette is Lloyd's childhood friend! They grow up together knowing Colette is the Chosen, a figure of some importance in the Church of Martel; when she's sixteen a bunch of foretold shit will happen and then she'll begin the ~journey of world regeneration~ which, upon her completing it, will save the world! This is a big deal because the world is undergoing a ton of attacks by monsters as well as incursions by the Desians and drought, famine, etc; this is because no Chosen has succeeded in Sylvarant for a long time — conditions which also make it impossible to give the Chosen a ton of support once it's time for their journey, especially as it's traditional for the Chosen to only travel with a very small group of companions. Colette's birthday is an annual holiday as everyone celebrates her journey to save them getting a little nearer! She's basically treated as a huge symbol of hope more than as a person in a lot of ways, and she values her life accordingly — especially since by the time canon starts, she's known for a long time that when her journey ends, so will her life as "Colette." The journey of regeneration is to change her into an angel and she knows that when it's over, she won't be able to go back to her human life. It scares her a lot, but that's what you have to do to save the world and let's have fun till then :')!!!

Over the course of her journey of world regeneration she first loses her ability to eat normally, then sleep, then feel! Her eyesight and hearing get so good they're kind of painful! She loses the ability to speak after that, but throughout the journey, she keeps reiterating that she wants to save the world and wants everyone else to have fun :')!! and hides it until Lloyd basically pries it out of her and then ignores his promise at the last to tell the others what's going on. Still, they continue, because how else is the world supposed to be saved?? — and then the inevitable conclusion is that Colette has to lose her life as a human and memories and heart/soul entirely to become an angel; it's revealed once she's already an empty husk that this is done because they need her body to try to revive Martel, not to save the world. The world regeneration system is set up as a way for Mithos to breed good Chosen candidates to hopefully match his sister's mana signature and lose their souls so that hers can take their bodies, and the religious leaders and the Desians that have been putting people in concentration camps for generations are actually the same group! How nice!

...with the help of a group of renegade Cruxis members, the party (especially Lloyd) rescues Colette and eventually brings her back to herself. Which she's grateful for! But she never finished the journey of world regeneration, so Sylvarant is still suffering; it wears on her a lot as the game continues that she's a failed Chosen, someone who dared to value living over the world, who wasn't brave enough or isn't worthy of this. She hides it from the party when she gets an illness to try to keep from worrying them, and basically continually wrestles with a sense of self-worth and who she can be if she's not the Chosen who'll save the world. She hangs on to Lloyd telling her he wants her to live for herself, and she's really not over any of it by the time the game ends. In ToS2 you see her as more settled, hoping to continue serving the world in a new way and trying to help and change it into a form that won't encourage the kind of system that broke her, but her lack of self-worth in the face of the world runs very deep. It's notable that she's very much a deconstruction of the smiling martyr girl trope — the kinds of attitudes towards your own self-worth that it fosters and how damaging and isolating it can be.

this music video is a good summary of Colette as a character, for me.

Tell me some of your character pings!
Edited 2013-04-09 03:59 (UTC)